National Guard at the Border

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jkphotog1
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National Guard at the Border

Postby jkphotog1 » Fri Jun 02, 2006 2:40 am

In light of National Guard troops being deployed at the US Mexico border, does anyone have insight into the freqs, talkgroups and radio systems the NG's will be using to patrol the border region? Encrypted or in the clear?

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mike
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Postby mike » Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:48 pm

They are most likely encrypted and im not sure of the frequencies though. :)

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National Guard

Postby 31 » Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:27 am

They will have BP radios and BP is total ENCRIPTED on the system.

SkipSanders
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Postby SkipSanders » Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:01 am

I would expect that if they're using 'tactical' radio at all, it'd be their own military version, the regular military field tactial SINCGARS system, in the 30-54 MHz range (They cover wider, but aren't likely to be used there inside the US.)

They can use single channel mode, but standard is to use frequency hopping/encryption, when it counts.

Possible they'll be using the Military version of FRS, or actual FRS radios, too, though. You never know what supply will provide.

Inter Squad Radios (Military FRS, an actual FRS radio redesigned for the 380-400 MHz region and toughened up some)

FM 396.8750 ISR Channel 01
FM 397.1250 ISR Channel 02
FM 397.1750 ISR Channel 03
FM 397.3750 ISR Channel 04
FM 397.4250 ISR Channel 05
FM 397.4750 ISR Channel 06
FM 397.5500 ISR Channel 07
FM 397.9500 ISR Channel 08
FM 398.0500 ISR Channel 09
FM 399.4250 ISR Channel 10
FM 399.4750 ISR Channel 11
FM 399.7250 ISR Channel 12
FM 399.9250 ISR Channel 13
FM 399.9750 ISR Channel 14

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Postby SDnative » Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:01 am

During a HIGH SPEED (120MPH) pursuit by El Cajon CHP last night (after 7pm going east on I-eight), I believe that the pursuing unit said that he talked to BP on their radio to request a spike strip. (They did not make it and the vehicle went all the way to Arizona, I think!) Can field units use LAWCC or is there another M/A TG for such communications with BP and others? Or is it possible that the El Cajon CHP units have 3 radios, RCS, Low Band, and BP?

SkipSanders
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Postby SkipSanders » Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:40 am

Hmm. There's a Border Patrol Call group on the CITY trunk, but I don't see one on the County trunk. Of course, they may simply sit on the all agency mutual aid channels, there. Or, they may simply have a 'BP Call' talkgroup that hasn't been discovered yet. FBI certainly has a bunch of assignments on the county trunk, now.

SDnative
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Postby SDnative » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:36 pm

Now that you remind me, I recently saw something in writing that said that those TGs were Federal Mutual Aid, not specific to FBI. I just don't remember where I saw the info. :roll:

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Postby brandon » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:08 pm

I picked up the Border Patrol in the past on Law CC (33600) and Imperial LAW CC (41920) when they need outside agency assistance.

163.5625 206.5 I believe might be used by the National Guard.

Also perhaps the BP have some common freqs in their radio such as CLEMARS? Maybe they used that or some other simplex freq.

Steele
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Postby Steele » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:45 am

I believe that the correct way for unit’s from one agency to hail
another agency is to go to the law command TG for that loop (south, north, etc.)
announce them selves (SDSO 70-Paul Sam -1 to the agency they are hailing)
and go from there. And if this is not exactly how it’s done go to the L.E.A.N.
web site you can find San Diego law enforcement radio protocol.

http://www.sdlean.org/


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Postby megahertz440 » Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:51 am

In the east county areas, SDSO, CHP, BP, BLM, and State Parks units mobile in the field use RCS Rural Tac 80 for comms between units.


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