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391/392 MHz Control Channels

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:59 pm
by Mickier
Has anyone else heard Control Channels on 391.0625 and 392.6625 MHz? Thanks! Someone told me it might be a TETRA TRS, and it could be in Baja.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TETRA

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:44 am
by mike
I cant listen to those freqs on my scanner I cant get the 300 band freqs.

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:59 am
by brandon
Just tried those 2 freqs but not hearing a thing from El Cajon.

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:22 pm
by w6pix
weird, that's a satellite band

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:43 pm
by Mickier
I did not know that. I had only heard military aircraft, and still do, in this range. More info on the U.S. use of this frq. range:
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d06172r.pdf
w6pix wrote:weird, that's a satellite band

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:22 pm
by w6pix
Mickier wrote:I did not know that. I had only heard military aircraft, and still do, in this range. More info on the U.S. use of this frq. range:
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d06172r.pdf
w6pix wrote:weird, that's a satellite band
No wonder my garage won't open!

Ya, maybe a re-allocation.. I was looking at a spectrum chart several years old.. Plus the mil can do whatever they want anywhere they want...

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:31 am
by SkipSanders
380-400 has been reallocated, and is no longer military aircraft. It's now military trunking systems, and also military in-squad radios (the military version of FRS radios... in fact, they use a custom variant FRS retuned to their channels in this range.

The (ICOM) Intersquad radios use:

CH-01 396.8750
CH-02 397.1250
CH-03 397.1750
CH-04 397.3750
CH-05 397.4250
CH-06 397.4750
CH-07 397.5500
CH-08 397.9500
CH-09 398.0500
CH-10 399.4250
CH-11 399.4750
CH-12 399.7250
CH-13 399.9250
CH-14 399.9750

There are quite a few military trunking systems going in all over the US in the 380 range, we certainly have one at Miramar, with a control channel of 385.350, and I believe there are several more around southern california. The BC396T will handle these trunk systems, though they are generally supposed to be encrypted once fully installed and gotten working. So far, I don't believe the Miramar one is using encryption. (They are P25)

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:37 am
by Mickier
There continues to be AM military aircraft in the 380-400 Band, and will continue. I have to lock them out while searching for NFM TRS activity. Hearing them this last week in Calif. and Colorado.
SkipSanders wrote:380-400 has been reallocated, and is no longer military aircraft. It's now military trunking systems, and also military in-squad radios (the military version of FRS radios... in fact, they use a custom variant FRS retuned to their channels in this range.

The (ICOM) Intersquad radios use:

CH-01 396.8750
CH-02 397.1250
CH-03 397.1750
CH-04 397.3750
CH-05 397.4250
CH-06 397.4750
CH-07 397.5500
CH-08 397.9500
CH-09 398.0500
CH-10 399.4250
CH-11 399.4750
CH-12 399.7250
CH-13 399.9250
CH-14 399.9750

There are quite a few military trunking systems going in all over the US in the 380 range, we certainly have one at Miramar, with a control channel of 385.350, and I believe there are several more around southern california. The BC396T will handle these trunk systems, though they are generally supposed to be encrypted once fully installed and gotten working. So far, I don't believe the Miramar one is using encryption. (They are P25)

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:05 pm
by SkipSanders
It takes a while for the 'word' to percolate through those hard military skulls. :roll:

They've been told to vacate, but that doesn't mean they've remembered to change EVERY frequency list out there. The Coast Guard changed its channels, but still uses the old 'prohibited' ones occasionally.

Eventually, one of the old users will interfere with a new, authorized one, and it'll hit the fan, with the military given some firm instruction to get with the orders they've been given, and NOT use that range for its old uses.

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:04 pm
by Mickier
Heard today:

380.200 So Cal Approach Control

385.400 So Cal Departure

387.025 So Cal Approach/Departure